WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.133 --> 00:00:10.167 What's the purpose of this investigation? Well we're 2 00:00:10.167 --> 00:00:13.633 interested in developing new techniques to study the very, 3 00:00:13.633 --> 00:00:17.167 very deep ocean, and we're perfectly situated here in Puerto 4 00:00:17.167 --> 00:00:20.433 Rico to make this study, because it's the deepest part of the 5 00:00:20.433 --> 00:00:24.867 Atlantic Ocean is only 100 miles north of the island of Puerto 6 00:00:24.867 --> 00:00:28.000 Rico, and so we want to make studies in the island in the 7 00:00:28.000 --> 00:00:31.667 trench of Puerto Rico, and also develop new techniques to use all 8 00:00:31.667 --> 00:00:36.400 over the world in the very deep ocean. Is this the first time 9 00:00:36.400 --> 00:00:40.867 that you're going to make this kind of research? Well actually 10 00:00:40.867 --> 00:00:45.767 this is an ongoing work that I've been conducting since 2006, but 11 00:00:45.767 --> 00:00:51.067 we have just now received the funds to move forward and fully 12 00:00:51.067 --> 00:00:55.100 develop, and fully realize the project. I have a collaborator in 13 00:00:55.100 --> 00:00:58.167 the Department of Electrical Engineering, Dr. Manuel Jimenez, 14 00:00:58.167 --> 00:01:01.500 and he and I have assembled a team of students. We have one PhD 15 00:01:01.500 --> 00:01:05.033 student, two master students, and currently three undergraduate 16 00:01:05.033 --> 00:01:09.167 students that are assisting us. So now we have a team, and we're 17 00:01:09.167 --> 00:01:12.900 able to move forward into the next phase of this project to 18 00:01:12.900 --> 00:01:19.133 really ramp it up, and realize the goal of making studies in the 19 00:01:19.133 --> 00:01:24.167 Puerto Rico trench. An important part of this project is the new 20 00:01:24.167 --> 00:01:28.767 technologies that you're going to develop to go into the deep 21 00:01:28.767 --> 00:01:33.600 ocean? Exactly, exactly. In the past, we have had to have very, 22 00:01:33.600 --> 00:01:37.733 very large ships, and very large budgets to study the deep ocean, 23 00:01:37.733 --> 00:01:40.167 because we would always attach a cable to the instruments that we 24 00:01:40.167 --> 00:01:43.400 would use, and Dr. Jimenez, and I are developing techniques where 25 00:01:43.400 --> 00:01:47.533 we don't need a cable. We put the devices into the water 26 00:01:47.533 --> 00:01:52.067 completely, unattached to the boat, and they fall to the bottom 27 00:01:52.067 --> 00:01:55.300 on their own, and they come back on their own. So this makes it 28 00:01:55.300 --> 00:01:58.933 possible to work from small vessels, which allow us to have 29 00:01:58.933 --> 00:02:02.667 much smaller budgets, and make more frequent samplings than 30 00:02:02.667 --> 00:02:07.533 would be possible with a large ship, and a large budget. For 31 00:02:07.533 --> 00:02:11.500 that you receive money from a federal agency, and I know it's 32 00:02:11.500 --> 00:02:15.300 competitive. Tell me a little bit more about it. Well this was from 33 00:02:15.300 --> 00:02:19.000 the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and 34 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:22.767 they have a special office that deals with this type of work 35 00:02:22.767 --> 00:02:26.033 that's called the Office of Exploration and Research. They 36 00:02:26.033 --> 00:02:31.700 have approximately every two years they open a call for 37 00:02:31.700 --> 00:02:34.633 proposals in which investigators from all over the world submit 38 00:02:34.633 --> 00:02:40.467 proposals to conduct research in various parts of the world, and 39 00:02:40.467 --> 00:02:45.133 Dr. Jimenez, and I submitted a proposal to do this work in the 40 00:02:45.133 --> 00:02:49.667 Puerto Rico trench. Now what are your expectations concerning the 41 00:02:49.667 --> 00:02:54.233 prototype? Well we feel very strongly that it's a solid 42 00:02:54.233 --> 00:03:00.600 design, and we're now looking to augment it in a few ways. In the 43 00:03:00.600 --> 00:03:05.600 past, we've used simply timing to determine the different stages of 44 00:03:05.600 --> 00:03:09.700 the deployment, and now we're working with essentially a 45 00:03:09.700 --> 00:03:13.767 navigation suite that has an accelerometer, gyroscope, and a 46 00:03:13.767 --> 00:03:17.000 magnetometer to allow the instruments to determine itself 47 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:21.567 when it's falling through the water column, when it's on 48 00:03:21.567 --> 00:03:27.100 bottom, when it's surfacing, and when it's on the surface again, 49 00:03:27.100 --> 00:03:31.400 and that allows us to minimize our power consumption. For 50 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:34.567 instance, when we want to turn on the signaling light we want to 51 00:03:34.567 --> 00:03:37.633 wait until we're at the surface to turn on the signaling light. 52 00:03:37.633 --> 00:03:40.633 Well if we have this navigation suite we can let the instrument 53 00:03:40.633 --> 00:03:43.800 determine itself when to turn on the signaling light rather than 54 00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:48.333 use time. How deep is the Puerto Rico trench, and what is the 55 00:03:48.333 --> 00:03:52.367 important to study? The Puerto Rico trench is approximately 56 00:03:52.367 --> 00:03:59.500 8,500 meters, or 8.5 kilometers, and so then roughly approaching 6 57 00:03:59.500 --> 00:04:01.500 miles in depth, and the pressures are extreme in these types of 58 00:04:01.500 --> 00:04:03.500 waters, 12,000 pounds per square inch. There's absolutely no 59 00:04:03.500 --> 00:04:05.500 light, so it's completely dark, and it's very, very cold, and yet 60 00:04:05.500 --> 00:04:07.500 there's organisms that thrive at these depths, and biologist are 61 00:04:07.500 --> 00:04:13.500 very interested in sampling these organisms to help understand how 62 00:04:28.500 --> 00:04:31.933 they can develop and thrive at such extreme temperature, 63 00:04:31.933 --> 00:04:38.467 pressure, and lack of light. They're also a new branch of the 64 00:04:38.467 --> 00:04:42.833 pharmaceutical industry that specializes in natural products, 65 00:04:42.833 --> 00:04:47.667 and many of the natural products in recent times have been 66 00:04:47.667 --> 00:04:52.000 developed from organisms in the very, very deep ocean, perhaps, 67 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:55.100 because there's so poorly sampled, and because they 68 00:04:55.100 --> 00:05:00.700 developed in these extreme conditions. So we definitely want 69 00:05:00.700 --> 00:05:04.400 to make biological samples. We're also interested in making 70 00:05:04.400 --> 00:05:07.500 geologic samples, because Puerto Rico trench is known to be an 71 00:05:07.500 --> 00:05:11.700 area of high seismicity that is to say earthquakes and 72 00:05:11.700 --> 00:05:17.067 potentially tsunamis. So with the entire Caribbean region, and the 73 00:05:17.067 --> 00:05:20.533 eastern seaboard of the United States, any geologic information 74 00:05:20.533 --> 00:05:27.567 we can gain from the Puerto Rico trench will help us plan for 75 00:05:27.567 --> 00:05:31.733 potential tsunami threats in the future. Then we also were 76 00:05:31.733 --> 00:05:36.300 interested in setting the physical oceanographic, the 77 00:05:36.300 --> 00:05:39.233 characteristics of the Puerto Rico trench, and that's my 78 00:05:39.233 --> 00:05:42.100 specialty is physical oceanography. Essentially that's 79 00:05:42.100 --> 00:05:47.300 the study of the waves, tides, currents, temperature, solidity, 80 00:05:47.300 --> 00:05:49.800 dissolved nutrients, and that sort of thing. What are the 81 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:52.967 characteristics of these prototypes that you think may go 82 00:05:52.967 --> 00:05:57.500 to the deep ocean? Right, well in the past in order to provide 83 00:05:57.500 --> 00:06:03.333 buoyancy, the lift to bring things up from the deep ocean, 84 00:06:03.333 --> 00:06:07.400 we've depended on foam, things like Styrofoam, but in the very, 85 00:06:07.400 --> 00:06:11.100 very deep ocean the foam is crushed by the high pressure. Now 86 00:06:11.100 --> 00:06:17.600 we're using glass spheres for our buoyancy, and they're essentially 87 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:22.500 pervious to the pressure, and so we have the two glass spheres 88 00:06:22.500 --> 00:06:27.567 that we use for our buoyancy, and they're hollow on the inside, so 89 00:06:27.567 --> 00:06:31.800 we can put our instruments on the inside, and they're protected 90 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:36.067 from the pressure, and below that we have our instrument that 91 00:06:36.067 --> 00:06:39.533 actually makes the measurements of the ocean, and it's 92 00:06:39.533 --> 00:06:45.067 essentially the payload. Then below that we have the weight, or 93 00:06:45.067 --> 00:06:49.033 the anchor that takes the whole device down to the bottom, and 94 00:06:49.033 --> 00:06:51.467 the trick is to be able to release the anchor once you're on 95 00:06:51.467 --> 00:06:55.333 the bottom so that everything can come back up. Professor, tell me 96 00:06:55.333 --> 00:06:58.467 a little bit more about the role of the students in this 97 00:06:58.467 --> 00:07:04.633 investigation. Well today we have depended very strongly on the 98 00:07:04.633 --> 00:07:08.767 undergraduate engineering students of Dr. Jimenez, my 99 00:07:08.767 --> 00:07:12.167 colleague, and they have helped us develop these prototypes that 100 00:07:12.167 --> 00:07:16.433 we're using now, and now one of the students has decided to go 101 00:07:16.433 --> 00:07:22.000 forward with his master's degree under the advice of Dr. Jimenez 102 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:26.067 and myself, and we've also recruited another master student 103 00:07:26.067 --> 00:07:31.167 who is going to work on the project with us, and then we have 104 00:07:31.167 --> 00:07:34.733 a team of three undergraduate students that are also going to 105 00:07:34.733 --> 00:07:37.800 be participating, and then I have another mechanical engineering 106 00:07:37.800 --> 00:07:42.533 student who is just completing his master's degree, who is going 107 00:07:42.533 --> 00:07:47.100 to work with me for his PhD degree. So we have this great 108 00:07:47.100 --> 00:07:51.000 team now, all more or less engineers, but going forward once 109 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:54.567 we actually start testing the prototype, and developing the 110 00:07:54.567 --> 00:07:59.800 final version we'll be able to start recruiting students from 111 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:06.300 biology, chemistry, physics, geology, marine science for 112 00:08:06.300 --> 00:08:11.733 undergraduate thesis, and for graduate work. Very mind opening 113 00:08:11.733 --> 00:08:15.867 to the students from different perspectives. Right well 114 00:08:15.867 --> 00:08:19.367 hopefully so, hopefully so, and we definitely have the potential 115 00:08:19.367 --> 00:08:23.733 for many biology projects, any geology projects, many chemistry 116 00:08:23.733 --> 00:08:30.767 projects, and many physics projects because of the newness 117 00:08:30.767 --> 00:08:34.833 of the study, and just in the general inner disciplinary nature 118 00:08:34.833 --> 00:08:38.233 of the marine science. We both know that we'll hear about that 119 00:08:38.233 --> 00:08:44.900 more, so if the space is open to you for future interview once you 120 00:08:44.900 --> 00:08:47.000 know more about the trench of Puerto Rico. Thank you for being 121 00:08:47.000 --> 00:00:00.000 with us. Thank you Mariam.