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Thank you all for joining the webinar today.
Today we'll be talking about our fiscal year 2024 NOAA Ocean Exploration Funding Opportunity.
This webinar for today will be recorded and added to our funding website after the webinar.
The audience will remain muted throughout the webinar, but we do ask you to ask questions
in the questions tab and we will answer them live during the question and answer session
at the end of the session.
For more information about our funding opportunity this year, please visit our website at oceanexplorer.NOAA.gov.
We have details about this website in our chat on the GoToWebinar panel.
We also have a link to the Ocean Exploration Fiscal Year 2024 Notice of Funding Opportunity
pdf, within the handouts for this webinar.
We welcome you to download it.
And you can also find it on our website, as well as on grants.gov.
My name is Adrienne Copeland and I'm the Program Manager for this Funding Opportunity.
And I have two people behind the scenes today, helping to make this webinar possible.
We have James Kot, who's the budget analyst for our grant program with NOAA Ocean Exploration.
And at the end of this webinar, during the question and answer period, he will be reading
your questions aloud for me to answer.
We also have Anna Lienesch, she is the data management lead for our grant program, and
she'll be working to answer your questions as text within the question tab of the GoToWebinar
panel.
So, we welcome you throughout the entire presentation to add those questions to the question tab,
and we'll answer them at the end.
During the webinar today, we'll be giving you an introduction to NOAA Ocean Exploration.
We will also discuss the FY24 Ocean Exploration Funding Opportunity.
We will also discuss the proposal requirements for this year's opportunity, as well as some
proposal tips.
Along the bottom of each slide you'll see a running tab that will orient you with this
agenda.
So to start, we'll talk a little bit about NOAA Ocean Exploration.
So NOAA Ocean Exploration is dedicated to exploring the unknown ocean, unlocking its
potential through scientific discovery, technology advancements, partnership, and data delivery.
We are leading national efforts to fill gaps in our basic understanding of the marine environment,
providing critical ocean data, information, and awareness needed to strengthen the economy,
health, and security of the United States and the world.
NOAA Ocean Exploration priorities are to explore the U.S. Exclusive Economic Zone.
We focus on unexplored or under explored areas within the U.S. EEZ and we have a particular
focus on areas that are greater than 200 meters water depth.
However, we do explore in shallower areas, especially when it comes to our maritime heritage
priorities.
Our main goal of our office is to make the data publicly accessible as soon as possible,
and all our priorities are informed by the National Strategy for Mapping, Exploring and
Characterizing the U.S. Exclusive Economic Zone.
This strategy, or NOMEC, defines ocean exploration activities as activities that provide a multi-disciplinary
view of an unknown or poorly understood area of the seafloor, sub-bottom, or water column
and an initial assessment of the physical, chemical, or biological, archeological or
other characteristics of such an area.
You can see a schematic on the right that defines site exploration, including the water
column, seafloor, and sub-seafloor looking at the biology and the environment of that
place.
NOAA Ocean Exploration uses a variety of mechanisms to explore.
We have the NOAA Ship Okeanos Explorer, imaged here at the top left, as well as the remotely
operated vehicle, Deep Discoverer, which you can see on the top right.
Our remotely operated vehicle can sample up to 6000 meters below the surface, and collect
high definition video, as well as limited sampling, but we also have other mechanisms
that we use to explore, including broad agency announcements, cooperative agreements, contracts,
cross agency partnerships, as well as the annual funding opportunity, which I'm discussing
today.
As mentioned before, NOAA Ocean Exploration priorities are to explore unexplored or under
explored areas within the U.S. Exclusive Economic Zone.
This is a map of those U.S. EEZ boundaries, and they're highlighted here in yellow.
Within these yellow lines, you can see the unmapped areas highlighted in pink and red.
The light pink areas are areas that are 200 meters in greater that are currently unmapped
as of September 2022.
This map is included within our frequently asked questions document that you can find
on our website.
Within that document, we also provide a GIS layer of this map, so you can download it
and see where these areas are located.
For this year's funding opportunity, it is open to applicants from U.S. based institutions
of higher education; non-profit organizations; U.S. state, tribal, territory, and local governments;
for-profit organizations; and federal agencies that possess the statutory authority to accept
funding for this type of work.
For this year, federal principal investigators are required to consult with the National
Oceanographic Partnership Program to make sure that they're project aligns with those
requirements.
Applicants from institutions that are part of the Ocean Exploration Cooperative Institute
are only eligible to collaborate with an eligible U.S.-based applicant on a proposal as a subaward.
They cannot submit as a principal or co-lead principal investigator.
For this year, the Ocean Exploration and Discovery and Technology themes are limited to waters
under U.S. jurisdiction.
This is not the case for the Maritime Archaeology proposals.
This year, we anticipate approximately three million available to fund about 4 to 10 awards.
These projects can be 1 to 2 year awards.
And we do have a requirement when it comes to the funding requests.
For the Technology and Maritime Heritage Themes, the funding must be between $75,000 to $750,000.
But the Ocean Exploration and Discovery theme, the funding request can range from $75,000,
up to one million dollars.
So this year, we have three different themes that you can apply to.
And each of these themes have different requirements, which I'll talk about throughout this presentation.
The first theme is the Ocean Exploration and Discovery theme.
The second theme is Technology, and the third theme is Maritime Heritage.
For the Ocean Exploration and Discovery theme, we're looking for proposals that are for exploration
of unknown or poorly known ocean areas, processes, and resources in waters deeper than 200 meters.
However, we will accept and review proposals for projects in shallower waters if they are
focused on the exploration of tropical mesophotic environments.
These proposals should reference priorities identified by the National Strategy for Mapping,
Exploring, and Characterizing the United States Exclusive Economic Zone.
And this year, we're particularly interested in proposals that are on the exploration of
physical, chemical, and biological environments and processes within the water column in these
deep waters.
For the second theme option, Technology, we're looking for proposals of new or novel use
of existing ocean technology or innovative methods that could increase the scope and
efficiency of acquiring ocean exploration data and expanding availability and use.
These proposals must be applicable to water depths greater than 200 meters, and we do
have a preference for full ocean depth proposals.
However, for these proposals, shallow water, or lab based testing, will be acceptable.
These proposals must address at least one of the defined ocean exploration variables
as referenced in the “Exploration Variables Identified by NOAA Ocean Exploration” technical
memorandum.
And they must also describe how the work will address the thematic and geographic priorities
for ocean exploration in the Strategic Priorities for Ocean Exploration and Characterization
of the United States EEZ document provided.
For the Technology theme this year, we're particularly interested in proposals that
are platform agnostic, so they can work across multiple platforms.
And are proposals that address novel methods, for example machine learning and artificial
intelligence, to analyze existing, publicly accessible, large datasets.
For the third theme, Maritime Heritage, we're looking for proposals that are on the exploration
and discovery of significant maritime heritage resources that improve archaeological knowledge
and inform decisions concerning preservation, management, and potential seafloor use.
For this year, the proposals can be conducted in any water depth, and they are not limited
to waters under U.S. jurisdiction.
I will highlight, again, though that the Ocean Exploration and Discovery and the Technology
proposals are limited to waters under U.S. jurisdiction.
For this theme, data products must benefit other academic and research management disciplines.
And this year, we're particularly interested in projects that use innovative and advanced
technology and methodology.
Here is the FY24 funding opportunity timeline.
We published our Notice of Funding Opportunity on April 10th and the deadline for the pre-proposals,
which is a requirement to submit a full proposal, is May 30th, 2023 at 4:59 PM Eastern Time.
The deadline for the full proposal submission is October 5th, 2023 at 11:59 PM Eastern Time.
We plan to notify applicants of their award selections by April of 2024, with an anticipated
start date of September 2024.
I'm going to go over now the requirements for applying to this year's funding opportunity.
All the resources and instructions can, again, be found on our website here.
On our website, you'll find a link to this year's Notice of Funding Opportunity, which
will take you to the grants.gov website.
Within that Notice of Funding Opportunity, there are all the details I'm going to be
mentioning today, as well as a checklist to ensure that you've submitted all the required
materials as part of both the pre-proposal and full proposal submission.
On our website, you'll also find the required cover sheet, which is a requirement of both
the pre-proposal and full proposal stage, as well as instructions on how to complete
that cover sheet.
You'll also find guidance on how to put together the budget tables and the data management
plans, which are both, again, requirements of the full proposal stage.
On our website, there'll be a link to the most recent NEPA Questionnaire, which is required
to be completed at the full proposal stage, and you'll also find the frequently asked
questions.
The frequently asked questions document will be updated throughout this funding cycle.
So I encourage you to check back there if you have any questions.
If you don't find your question answered there, you can also reach out to us via email, and
we're happy to answer those questions.
Will also be updating that frequently asked questions document based on the questions
we received today, and we'll be revising that after this webinar.
So, the requirements for the pre-proposal stage, so again, you are required to submit
a pre-proposal in order to be considered for a full proposal.
The first requirement for the pre-proposal stage is a complete submission of the NOAA
Ocean Exploration Notice of Funding Opportunity Cover Sheet.
This document is a two page document that can be found on our website.
The other requirement is the pre-proposal, which is a maximum of two pages.
Anything beyond those two page limits will not be reviewed.
Details about what you should include for the pre-proposal can be found in the Notice
of Funding Opportunity.
This year, we also request that you submit demographic information.
This is a one page document with one question that, again, is included within our Notice
of Funding Opportunity.
These three materials are due May 30th, 2023, at 4:59 PM Eastern Time via email, to our
email address listed here, which is oer.nofo2024@noaa.gov.
Make sure to allow enough time for this submission, because any pre-proposals received after this
deadline will not be considered for review.
When you send those emails, make sure to include your last name of the principal investigator,
along with ocean exploration pre-proposal.
Now the requirements for the full proposal.
You’ll, again, need to submit that NOAA Ocean Exploration Notice of Funding Opportunity
Cover Sheet, and make sure to update that from whatever changes might have occurred
between pre-proposal and full proposal stage.
They also have to submit an executive summary, a maximum of one page, a project narrative,
maximum of 15 pages.
And, again, I'll encourage you to read the Notice of Funding Opportunity, because it
talks about what you should include within that project narrative.
As well as a data and information sharing plan, maximum of two pages, an outreach and
education plan maximum of one page.
A statement of diversity, equity, inclusion, and accessibility or DEIA, maximum, again,
of one page.
A previous significance results document, summary of current funding support for each
principal investigator and co-principal investigator.
A CV or resume for each principal investigator and each co-principal investigator, maximum
of two pages per document for each person.
Budget justification and budget tables.
If applicable, the negotiated indirect cost rate memo.
And the NEPA questionnaire with questions 1 through 19 and 51 to 57 answered.
And again, that NEPA questionnaire, as well as guidance on the budget justification and
budget tables, can all be found within our website.
Also it's optional to provide letters of support.
We've seen things like this be letters of support for the outreach and education activities.
It can also be letters of support for the ship time requests.
But again, those are optional.
And if you are submitting a proposal for the Maritime Heritage theme, it is required for
you to submit a letter from the state historic preservation office staff describing the project's
potential to affect historic resources.
So this must be present, must be submitted, along with the full proposal.
It's also optional to submit suggested reviewers, and we do take those into consideration when
we do the peer review process.
And then for the federal principal investigators, they do also need to include a maximum of
one page detailing their NOPP coordination efforts, and how this project conforms to
the NOPP requirements.
For non-federal principal investigators, they must also submit these following federal forms.
I encourage you to make sure that all of these are submitted, and if they aren't submitted,
then this project will not go for review.
All these materials with their page limits are due October 5th, 2023, at 11:59 PM Eastern
Time.
And they must be submitted as individual documents through grants.gov.
For federal PIs, they can be submitted, they have to be submitted, via email to our email
address, again, listed here at oer.nofo2024@noaa.gov.
I also want to highlight here, it's not listed, but make sure when you submit your project
narrative, you also include your references or citations, and your references and citations
do not count to the 15 page limit of the project narrative.
So the format requirements for the full proposal.
All full proposals must be formatted to print on 8.5 by 11 paper with one inch margins and
12 point font.
PDF is the preferred format.
The principal investigator's last name should be typed in the bottom right-hand corner of
each page.
And all digital files should be named with the applicant's last name and a descriptor
indicating the file content.
For each proposal, the title must be no longer than 15 words or 100 characters.
So now I'm going to talk through the review process.
So, again, the pre-proposal is a requirement in order to submit a full proposal and the
pre-proposal we'll go through a NOAA Ocean Exploration Internal Evaluation Panel.
Every pre-proposal will be reviewed by at least three experts, and these are the following
things that will be reviewed.
The first one is the relevance to NOAA and NOAA Ocean Exploration mission and goals.
The second review criterion is the scientific and technical merit of the project.
The third one is the qualifications and competencies of the applicants, and this includes past
performance on NOAA Ocean Exploration awards.
Past performance can include things like timely publications, submission of data, etc.
And the final review criterion is the cost for specific items, as well as the overall
project costs, including value of cost sharing and/or in-kind contributions, including the
strength of the NOPP partnership for federal applicants.
So these are the items that the internal panel will be reviewing.
So I encourage you, when you write your proposal, pre-proposals, to keep these in mind.
Once the internal review happens, all principal investigators will be notified whether or
not we encourage or discourage the pre-proposal for submission to full proposal.
Even if a project is discouraged from submitting a full proposal, it is still up to the principal
investigator and their institution if they would like to submit a full proposal.
So even if you receive a discouraged, that does not limit you from submitting a full
proposal.
So the full proposals go through a two stage external review process.
The first stage is an email peer review process that has a minimum of three experts that review
that proposal.
And then it will go through a panel review, again, with a minimum of three reviewers.
And the panel reviewers are different from the email review.
These external peer reviewers are asked to evaluate their full proposals based on the
criteria listed within the Notice of Funding Opportunity, but I'm gonna walk through each
of them now.
So the first criteria is Importance and Relevance and Applicability of the Proposed Project
to NOAA and NOAA Ocean Exploration Mission and Goals.
So if you turn to page 23 of the Notice of Funding Opportunity, you'll see what that
entails.
But it includes whether or not there is intrinsic value in the proposed project, and the relevance
to NOAA, federal, regional, state, tribal, or local activities.
And specifically, the reviewers will evaluate the extent to which the proposed project is
germane to NOAA’s missions and goals.
Whether the proposed project is exploration focused, so focused on the potential for making
discoveries, versus research focus, which is focused on increasing knowledge concerning
a particular topic.
And finally, whether the anticipated results could have significant downstream impact.
So, this one is worth 30% of the total score.
The next criterion that they're asked to review is the science and technical merit.
Again, worth 30% of the total score.
And this criterion assesses whether the approach is technically sound and/or innovative.
If the methods are appropriate, and whether there are clear project goals and objectives.
For this evaluation criteria, the reviewers will evaluate the extent to which the proposed
approach is scientifically and technically feasible, whether the proposed project is
innovative, whether the proposal includes clear goals and objectives, whether the methods
are commensurate with the goals and objectives, whether the project is interdisciplinary,
and whether the plans for documentation, archiving, and sharing of data and multimedia and sample
collections are adequately described.
The next evaluation criterion, worth 15% of the total score, is the overall qualifications
of the applicant.
This criteria assesses whether the applicant possesses the necessary education, experience,
training, facilities, and administrative resources to accomplish the project.
For NOAA Ocean Exploration, the reviewers will evaluate the qualifications of the applicants,
including if they have the proper expertise to accomplish the proposed project, and the
strength, breadth, and depth of any proposed project partnerships.
If the applicant has previously received NOAA Ocean Exploration funding, the reviewers will
also evaluate their past award performance.
And this can include things like timely publication of results and sharing of data.
An applicant's qualifications, independent of the applicant's career stage, will be considered
under this criterion.
The next criterion is the project costs, and this is also 15% of the total score.
This criterion accesses the proposed budget to determine if it is realistic and commensurate
with the proposed project needs and timeline.
The final evaluation criterion is the Outreach and Education and Diversity, Equity, Inclusion,
and Accessibility criterion.
This one is worth 10% of the score, and assesses whether the proposed project provides a focus
and effective education and outreach strategy in line with NOAA’s mission to protect the
Nation's natural resources, and if it will provide an opportunity to broaden the participation
of underrepresented groups.
For NOAA Ocean Exploration, the reviewers will determine the extent to which the Outreach
and Education plan is innovative and likely to be effective.
Whether the proposed project will provide opportunities to broaden participation of
underrepresented groups, whether the proposed project will provide opportunities for early
career researchers and students, and whether the proposed project budget includes funding
to support the outreach and education plan that will target diverse future generations
of explorers.
So I encourage any applicant, if you're interested in submitting a full proposal to read through
these evaluation criteria, again on page 23 of the Notice of Funding Opportunity, and
make sure that your full proposal addresses each of those criteria.
Some other tips, make sure, again, to read the entire Notice of Funding Opportunity thoroughly.
2, 3, 4 times, there's lots of great information and details on how to complete the proposal
in that Notice of Funding Opportunity, as well as on our website, oceanexplorer.noaa.gov.
Also, I encourage you to read through the basis for our program priorities and make
sure your proposal addresses these.
And these priorities include the NOAA Science and Technology priorities document, the NOMEC
strategy and implementation plan, as well as the Exploration Variables report.
And, again, all those documents are linked within the Notice of Funding Opportunity,
as well as in our frequently asked questions document.
Also, make sure to fill in all application fields of the cover sheet thoroughly and accurately.
Make sure the cover sheet matches everything that's included in both the pre-proposal and
full proposal text.
And I also encourage all applicants to look through the list of past grant funding recipients
on our website listed here.
This goes back to 2014, and you can see all the projects we've funded from 2014 till now.
And I assure you, I encourage you to look at that to see what types of projects we fund
and to ensure also that your project isn't duplicative to pass funded projects.
Also, I encourage you to reach out if you have any questions.
Again, our email is listed here and it's oer.nofo2024@noaa.gov.
So, some tips for the data management section, which is within your data and information
sharing plan, which is the two page required document for the full proposal.
Again, all data must be discoverable and accessible to the public.
This means that that data must be archive ready, machine, readable, open source, and
in non-proprietary formats.
And for this year's Funding Opportunity, all data must be sent, submitted to the National
Centers for Environmental Information, if applicable.
All data must be free of charge, and/or at a cost of reproduction.
And the data is due to the National Centers for Environmental Information at either one
of these, whichever is the earliest.
So either the publication of the manuscript based on this data, either 2, or 2 years,
from the time the data was collected, if there was not a publication, or from two years from
the end of the award period.
So whichever of these comes first is when the deadline of the data.
And some tips for your education and outreach and diversity and inclusion sections.
So it is a requirement to work with NOAA Ocean Exploration on web communication, but that's
not enough.
You can include other things as part of your education and outreach sections to make it
more robust.
And I've seen many different ideas from hosting webinars, ship to shore interactions, things
like paying for workshops, and I'd encourage you, again, to look at the evaluation criteria
for the education and outreach, and keep in mind that you'll want to include funding support
for these items as part of your project budget.
You'll also want to describe how the proposed activity broadens the participation of underrepresented
groups, and certain things you can consider as part of that is your team composition or
management, leadership, and decision making, focus areas, and partnerships.
And you'll want to look at how these outcomes of these considerations are reflected in your
proposed project.
And, where possible, the statement should also include goals and metrics for assessing
and adjusting these DEIA efforts.
So some tips for your budget tables and budget justification section.
Again, I'll point you to our website because it does have details about what you should
include in those sections.
But make sure as you're putting those budget tables and justifications together that you
provide details for the basis for why you have those estimates.
So for things like example, if you have travel to and from conferences or field work, make
sure to include airfare cost comparisons, or the basis for why you determine those per
diem estimates.
Typically folks use the GSA rates for their per diem estimates, but if you're using anything
outside of that, you'll want to make sure you provide details as to why those budget
numbers were decided upon.
For the full proposal, you'll want to make sure that your project, if it's a two year
project, it must be separated into year one and year two sections.
Don't put them all together, and then you'll want to make sure that you have a summary
budget table at the start of your budget justification by object class.
And you'll have year 1 and year 2 separate with the final column being the total column.
And my final tip on this is to make sure you check all your materials, including your cover
sheet, executive summary, budget narrative, and all the OMB forms to ensure that all the
numbers are consistent.
We've seen, quite a bit of times, that budget numbers have come in with different numbers
of costs on all of these various forms.
So make sure to ensure that all these forms match each other when making the budget request.
And that's my final tip.
So at this time, I'll take any questions.
Perfect.
So we have one statement which is the link provided in the chat is an error that's due
to a period at the end, behind the HTML, but the link is good.
Just remove that period.
First question.
I just want to confirm that a technology proposal would not be able to be performed work in
the Marshall Islands because this is not technically in U.S. jurisdiction.
Is that correct?
Yes.
So for the technology proposals, you do have to propose field work that would be in waters
under U.S. jurisdiction, and that is the case for both the technology proposals, as well
as the ocean exploration and discovery proposals.
The next question is the reference page, do you count the page numbers on the pre-proposal?
And I think, they are asking, does that count towards the final page count?
Great.
Thank you for that.
So the references for the pre-proposal do not count towards the two page pre-proposal
page limit.
And that's the same for the full proposals.
So for the full proposals, there is a 15 page max page limit for the full proposals, but
your references or citations do not count to that 15 page limit.
The next question is: Is all of this information that you presented in the NOFO, or is this
webinar recorded?
That's a great question.
Yes, everything I have presented today will be in our Notice of Funding Opportunity, or
NOFO, and, yes, today's webinar is recorded.
And after this webinar, we will be posting this recording on our funding webpage at oceanexplorer.noaa.gov.
So you can reference at a later date.
But, again, if you have further questions that are not addressed in our webinar, I encourage
you to look at our frequently asked questions document.
That is also on our website.
And if that still doesn't answer your question, then I encourage you to reach out to us via
email here listed.
So it's oer.nofo2024@noaa.gov, and we would be happy to answer that question for you,
and if it's a question that isn't listed anywhere, will also be adding it to the website, so
people have access to that answer as well.
Wonderful, Next question is: Does the entire team or any of the team need to be U.S. citizens,
or hold valid employment visas in the U.S.?
So, only the principal investigator has to be based at a U.S. institution, and that,
the eligibility, again, I talked about that earlier, but you can also find it in our Notice
of Funding Opportunity.
But foreign entities can actually participate via this Notice of Funding Opportunity, but
only through collaboration with an eligible U.S. based organization as a subawardee.
So, not everybody on the team needs to be a U.S. citizen with an employment visa.
And I will say, the principal investigator only needs to be based at a U.S. institution
that qualifies under this eligibility, and we, they don't necessarily need to be a U.S.
citizen, but they do need to be based at a U.S. institution.
OK, next question is: For the two page pre-proposal, what level of detail, if any, would be expected
apart from a narrative description of the proposed project?
Yeah, that's a great question.
And I'm actually going to move us back to the evaluation criterion and pull that up
for you.
Because this is, it's really that evaluation criteria that you’ll want to address as
you put together that pre-proposal.
So here, that is that, again, because these are the things that you'll be reviewed and
encouraged and discouraged based off of.
So you'll want to make sure you include items, like the relevance to NOAA and NOAA Ocean
Exploration missions and goals.
You'll want to address the science and technical merit.
You'll want to talk about the PIs coPIs qualifications to ensure that the project will be successful
and feasible.
You'll also want to include details about your past performance.
So if you've received NOAA Ocean Exploration awards in the past, including details about
whether or not you've published or if you've got all your data submitted will be helpful
to your projects that will be reviewed.
And then you'll also want to have a budget justification.
And if you are a federal employee, you'll need to speak about your NOPP partnerships.
Perfect.
So, that is all of the questions for the moment, back over to you.
OK, great, well, I'll, I'll wait a couple more minutes to see if any more questions
come in.
OK, well, I haven't seen any other.
Oh, here we go.
Sorry, there's another question.
One more question.
Is work in the Great Lakes applicable?
Yes.
Yes, you can work in the Great Lakes this year.
So I'll just point you to, again, know that for the Ocean Exploration and Discovery theme,
you'll need to be working in waters under U.S. jurisdiction and in areas 200 meters
or deeper, unless it's a mesophotic tropical environment.
For the Technology theme, you can work in the Great Lakes again under waters under U.S.
jurisdiction, but for the Maritime Heritage theme, you can actually work at any water
depth and any waters.
They are not limited to waters under U.S. jurisdiction.
So then yes, it would be the total Great Lakes that you could work in as part of the Maritime
Heritage theme.
Okay, I think we'll wait one more minute to see if any last-minute questions come in.
But, again, like you can see on this last slide here, my contact information, including
my cell phone number, our email, and our website is all listed.
So, I encourage you to check out all those items.
And, again, if we haven't answered all your questions today, please feel free to reach
out to us at this email address, and also check out the frequently asked questions section
of our website.
OK, OK, I don't think any other questions are coming in so I just want to thank again
James and Anna behind the scenes for helping make this webinar a success.
I want to thank you all for attending and asking really great questions.
We're really excited to release our FY24 announcement this year and I'm happy to take any follow
up questions and I hope you all have a great week.
And thanks again for joining!